NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Garrdor » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:41 am

The Kennedy administration just called this activity "Gentlemen's Night"
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Finglefinn » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:48 am

Garrdor wrote:The Kennedy administration just called this activity "Gentlemen's Night"
LOL Gar. That's the funniest thing you have ever posted.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Embar Angylwrath » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:38 pm

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Do you ever get tired of straw men and ad hominems?
Kind of hard to take you seriously when you impugn others for ad hominem attacks, when you engage in that very same behavior... in the very same post.
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Post by Partha » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:51 pm

However, I again note: Democrats are not rallying around Spitzer the way Republicans rallied around Vitter.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Croinc » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:14 pm

Partha wrote:Still bopping waitresses on the side?
Nope. I grew out of that much like children grow out of sucking their thumbs.

Too bad your democratic leaders, appaerently, haven't followed my lead.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Alluveal » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:55 am

You gotta love the wives in these situations, don't ya.

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STAND BY YOUR MAN!!!!
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Finglefinn » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:09 am

So is Paterson a worthy replacement? I hear both Dems and Reps like him.
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Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:33 am

Alluveal wrote:You gotta love the wives in these situations, don't ya.

(breaks into song)

STAND BY YOUR MAN!!!!
Give him to a-a-arms to cling toooooo...

la la la laaaaa

What good, upstanding ladies. Mmm HMM!
Would you hae the courage to do it?
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Partha » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:42 am

I love Embar's response.

"Would you have the COURAGE to stand by someone who broke their sacred vows?"

No wonder Vitter got a standing O.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:53 am

Partha wrote:I love Embar's response.

"Would you have the COURAGE to stand by someone who broke their sacred vows?"

No wonder Vitter got a standing O.
There are two vows taken, one by each person in the marriage. And I think it takes incredible courage to try and stay in a marriage when a spouse fails himself or herself, and turns the marriage upside down. It's easy to keep your vow when times are good. The real test of your vow is when shit hits the fan.

Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it. Nice to know you're a quitter though, Partha.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by superwalrus » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:00 pm

lol..

standing by your man when he's broke or loses an arm is one thing, but leaving him after he cheats on you is not quitting.

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Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:09 pm

superwalrus wrote:lol..

standing by your man when he's broke or loses an arm is one thing, but leaving him after he cheats on you is not quitting.

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Sure it is. Just because a spouse breaks a vow, doesn't mean you're entitled to break yours. The vows are mutually independent of one another.
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Post by superwalrus » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:08 pm

lol wow, independent covenants.

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Post by Jarochai Alabaster » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:26 pm

Personally, I wouldn't fault someone for making either choice in the situation that their spouse had been unfaithful. It goes without saying that it's a shitty situation no matter what you do, and facing either the reality of divorce or rebuilding the relationship takes a great deal of courage.

Now, a spouse that makes a habit of cheating? Drop that slut.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:05 pm

superwalrus wrote:lol wow, independent covenants.

17th century England called, it wants its law back.

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Drop the legal side, idiot. It's a marriage vow, not a contract for paint and stucco.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Partha » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:56 pm

Man who spends one night with a hooker? Might be redeemable.

Man who spends a reported 80k on hookers? Not so much.

But glad to see Embar thinks the little woman should just shut her eyes and soldier on. Lemme guess, for the sake of the kids, right?
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Finglefinn » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:08 pm

You should stay together for the sake of the children. But as soon as the kids are grown and gone, I wouldn't be surprised if she files for divorce and takes all his stuff in the process.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:49 pm

Finglefinn wrote:You should stay together for the sake of the children. But as soon as the kids are grown and gone, I wouldn't be surprised if she files for divorce and takes all his stuff in the process.
I strongly disagree with this statement, Fingle. If a couple decides to stay together, it should be because they want to preserve the marriage. I feel a damaged marriage, full of unresolved bitterness, mistrust and pain, will only damage the children.

As for Partha (I understand now why he's still living in his mom's basemet), it's not about soldiering on. Its about looking deep into yourself, and deciding if you have the courage and strength to try and repair the marraige. I'll bet you that Silda (just like every other betrayed spouse) didn't stop loving her husband when he told her what he'd done. Humans aren't like that. You simply can't turn those types of deep emotions off like a switch.

Have done any research on infidelity? Did you know that most marriages survive it? Some actually become stronger. Do some reading about what drives infidelity, and how spouses cope with it. I think you'll be surprised. It upends a lot of long-held beliefs people have about why people marry, and why they stay married in the face of such incredible betrayal and pain.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by Embar Angylwrath » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:51 pm

Partha wrote:Man who spends one night with a hooker? Might be redeemable.

Man who spends a reported 80k on hookers? Not so much.

But glad to see Embar thinks the little woman should just shut her eyes and soldier on. Lemme guess, for the sake of the kids, right?
Oh, and notice I said spouse. This isn't gender specific. My feelings apply to husbands who have suffered an infidleity too.
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Re: NY Gov. Spitzer tied to prostitution ring

Post by superwalrus » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:56 pm

#1 reason why men cheat: their wives get fat

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